by someone who was badly hurt
trying to defend the U.S.
Capitol and those in it.
On January six, Michael Fanone,
former Washington, D.C.
police officer.
He's now a senior in
law enforcement analyst.
Michael, it's
good to have you on the program.
This is obviously deeply personal for you
and for so many.
The law enforcement personnel
who were there that day
risking their lives and wondering just
what do you make of what we have seen
just in the last day or so?
I mean, in terms of these charges
or potential charges,
I'm better late than never.
I mean, I'm grateful for
the commitment of the
members of the Department of Justice
to pursue justice in this case and seek
a what appears to be an indictment
against the former president.
A lot of congressional Republicans,
as you know,
are using the line
that this is just the weaponization
of the Justice Department.
Earlier today,
Kevin McCarthy was pressed by CNN
if he would respect the results
of the special counsel's investigation.
I just want to play for our viewers
what he said
is not
I don't see how he could be found
criminally responsible.
He did not charge it.
Well, what criminal activity did he do?
He told people to be peaceful
That's the same Kevin McCarthy
who right after January
six, said
that the former president bears
responsibility for the attack
and then changed his mind weeks later.
Yeah, I mean,
it's become a national disgrace
that we have so many elected members
of our government that seem incapable
of acting in the best interest
of our country.
And Kevin McCarthy,
is at the forefront of that group.
It doesn't surprise you, though.
I mean, you've had
I remember
you going to you
writing in your book about a meeting
you were at with Kevin McCarthy.
You're not
surprised by the way he's playing this.
Yeah.
I mean, listen,
I wasn't naive prior to January six,
like many Americans.
But if there's one
fact that's been solidified in my mind
is that our politicians are foolish shit.
And at this point in time,
the Republican Party
seems to be winning the race.
With that, with regard
Would you
I mean, I know you're not an attorney.
The the three charges were mentioned
or potential charges
were mentioned in this in this world.
In this letter
that the former president received,
inciting an insurrection was not
one of them was deprivation
of rights, conspiracy
to commit an offense to or defraud
the United States, tampering
with a witness
and there's a lot of potential crimes
within those descriptions.
Those are just the kind of the
the the headlines
for for each of the statutes
there's not a
in terms of a potential indictment,
a charge for inciting an insurrection.
Does that matter to you?
No, I'm
very comfortable with these charges.
And I'm somebody who's followed this case
very closely.
In addition
to my participation
in the defense of the Capitol
on January 6th,
I attended
every one of the Select Committees
hearings.
But if there is one thing I do know, it's
that no one knows
this case better than Jack Smith
and the prosecutors on his team
far better than me.
And I want to read from you
a 2017 DOJ memorandum,
which pretty much sums up,
I think, why these charges were selected
and what their motivations are
It is a core principle
that prosecutors should charge and pursue
the most serious,
readily provable offenses.
This policy
affirms our responsibility to enforce
the law is moral and just
and produces consistency.
I've had many arguments with prosecutors
over the course of my 20 year career,
but I never questioned their commitment
and I never questioned their oath to
the Constitution.
And going back to Republican lawmakers,
we have a whole host of Republicans
running for president,
and it seems to escape them
the ability to
simply comment on the Trump
pending indictment
with the statement that
our justice system is not perfect,
but it is damn near perfect
and the best in the world.
And we should trust the process
and trust the career.
Prosecutors at the Department of Justice,
who serve
under a variety of administrations,
both Republican and Democrat,
and whose oath is to the Constitution
and to pursue justice.
Michael Flynn,
I appreciate you being with us tonight.
Thank you.
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